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Second-time UK Writer George Denyer expresses more anger directed at Goodschools

Recently I commented on a letter from George Denyer.  More recently he wrote again--this time apparently even more angry at Goodschools.   As always, I will print this, his second letter, verbatim at the end of this article.  ...And, for the sake of response, I will first print segments of his letter immediately below, which will include my comments:

Denyer Writes:

In 45 years of scientific life I've never met a single scientist who would dream of citing Darwinism as 'bad science'. Yet you have the temerity to utter such garbage with an arrogance that knows no bounds. Then you show your true colours by poisoning the minds of young persons with your drivel without offering a single shred of evidence for your pathetic claims.

My Response: 

George makes no specific reference as to which of my articles he is citing.  I suppose he is just generally mad at me.  I would refer him to many articles which do cite many real scientists who get a kick out of Darwin, but do not take him seriously, specifically one included on this site.  I think that George is a prime candidate for my Stuart Kauffman "physics-envy" award for 2004.  (Dr. Stuart Kauffman, Origins of Order, Oxford, 1993, p643)

I think George's opening ought to have been this:  "In 45 years of scientific life, I never met a single scientist..."  If his comment were to have stopped there, it might have been correct.  I have requested George to explain his "scientific life," but he has refused to help us out. 

Denyer Writes:

I feel desperate sympathy for young American children who fall into your clutches, their natural curiosity and desire to learn polluted and defiled by the thinly-disguised prattlings of a dinosaur like you! Yes, you are the dinosaur! You and your kind should been subject to extinction long ago. I don't normally stoop to ad hominem attacks, but creature, you and I are not even the same species so that principle doesn't apply.

My Response: 

George is mad.  First, I will critique his use of the King's English.  For starters, I would not connect "prattlings" (childish utterings) with "dinosaur."  I think it a poor metaphor.   Next, George writes that [referring to me] "You and your kind should been subject to extinction long ago."   I think he intends "You and your kind should [have] been subject[ed] to extinction long ago."  Then George writes:  "I don't normally stoop to ad hominem attacks, but creature, you and I are not even the same species so that principle doesn't apply."  This sentence represents as awkward a sentence as I have ever received, especially considering that George claims to have spent "45 years of scientific life."  It would have read better like this:  "I don't usually stoop to ad hominem attacks.  But, creature, you and I are not even members of the same species, so that principle doesn't apply." 

So much for grammar and syntax.  As far as the content of these comments, I would say that George would do better were he to provide meat and potatoes, instead of cookies and ear candy; fewer exclamation points, and more facts.  I do not believe that George is at all ill-disposed to ad hominem attacks, because that is all he offers. 

The only meaningful comment George makes in this segment is where he states that he and I are not of the same species.  Obviously, George is a terrific Darwinist--Darwin proposed the theory that blacks were not of the same species as whites.  That must be what George is getting at.  Or, is hyperbole and insult George's weapons of choice? 

Finally, Denyer Writes:

You'd better hope I don't meet you in heaven...or the other place.
 
George W. Denyer
 

My Final Response, and postscript: 

My only question here would be:  Where is that "other place"?  Could he be referring to Paris?

Postscript:  I really enjoyed George Denyer's letters to Goodschools.  I tried a couple of times to get him to respond further (via email), but with no success.  I then "Googled" him, again with no success.  Perhaps this article will get him on the search engines.  In the meantime, George, please respond.  I would like to have you defend your accusations--ad hominem attacks are not acceptable on this site.

George Denyer's Second Letter Verbatim:

In 45 years of scientific life I've never met a single scientist who would dream of citing Darwinism as 'bad science'. Yet you have the temerity to utter such garbage with an arrogance that knows no bounds. Then you show your true colours by poisoning the minds of young persons with your drivel without offering a single shred of evidence for your pathetic claims.
 
I feel desperate sympathy for young American children who fall into your clutches, their natural curiosity and desire to learn polluted and defiled by the thinly-disguised prattlings of a dinosaur like you! Yes, you are the dinosaur! You and your kind should been subject to extinction long ago. I don't normally stoop to ad hominem attacks, but creature, you and I are not even the same species so that principle doesn't apply.
 
You'd better hope I don't meet you in heaven...or the other place.
 
George W. Denyer

Would you like to see Denyer's other letter, and my comments?
Would you like to see related letters and my comments?

--Mike Carrier (MA, NYU--Graduate School of Arts and Science)

 

 

 

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This site features a frank presentation of issues facing parents, taxpayers and schools in reforming schools in the twenty-first century.  Good Schools promotes good schools, and explains what is necessary to achieve good schools.  We are convinced that good schools can be obtained only with sound curriculum, which does not include the teaching of Darwin's theory of origin, or Darwin's theory of evolution.  We believe that local school boards need to be empowered, and the influence of teachers' unions ought to be limited to  labor-related issues.  Teachers' unions should have no say in curriculum. 

We are convinced that the teachings of Darwin, particularly Darwin's teachings on evolution, and Darwin's theories on origins, ought not be taught as fact.  Darwin and Darwin's theories are not generally accepted by contemporary physicists and cosmologists, and, therefore, Darwin and Darwin's theories ought not be accepted whole-cloth by our schools of education, and ought not be presented as fact in public schools. 

Because Richard Dawkins has set himself up as the number one defender of Darwin and Darwin's theory of evolution, we will go to some length explaining Dawkins' Darwin defenses, and we will do our best to explode Dawkins' Darwin defenses.

We seek to show from Darwin's own hand that Darwin, and Darwin's theory of evolution, are racist at the core.  Darwin was a racist,  Darwin's theory of evolution is racist, and Darwin's theory of origins is racist.

We further seek to show that Darwin's theory of evolution is not scientific.  We show that racism, more than science, was behind Darwin and Darwin's theory of evolution, and Darwin's theory of origins.

Some of the terms commonly used on this site are:  Darwin, Dawkins, schools, public schools, education, gun control, teachers, John Dewey, Littleton, racist, racism , school choice, African American, Sidney Hook, evolution, and Mike Carrier.

Bottom line--good schools require work.  Good schools do not just happen.  We need good schools, if we are to have a good nation.

This site features a frank presentation of issues facing parents, taxpayers and schools in reforming schools in the twenty-first century.  Good Schools promotes good schools, and explains what is necessary to achieve good schools.  We are convinced that good schools can be obtained only with sound curriculum, which does not include the teaching of Darwin's theory of origin, or Darwin's theory of evolution.  We believe that local school boards need to be empowered, and the influence of teachers' unions ought to be limited to  labor-related issues.  Teachers' unions should have no say in curriculum. 

We are convinced that the teachings of Darwin, particularly Darwin's teachings on evolution, and Darwin's theories on origins, ought not be taught as fact.  Darwin and Darwin's theories are not generally accepted by contemporary physicists and cosmologists, and, therefore, Darwin and Darwin's theories ought not be accepted whole-cloth by our schools of education, and ought not be presented as fact in public schools. 

Because Richard Dawkins has set himself up as the number one defender of Darwin and Darwin's theory of evolution, we will go to some length explaining Dawkins' Darwin defenses, and we will do our best to explode Dawkins' Darwin defenses.

We seek to show from Darwin's own hand that Darwin, and Darwin's theory of evolution, are racist at the core.  Darwin was a racist,  Darwin's theory of evolution is racist, and Darwin's theory of origins is racist.

We further seek to show that Darwin's theory of evolution is not scientific.  We show that racism, more than science, was behind Darwin and Darwin's theory of evolution, and Darwin's theory of origins.

Some of the terms commonly used on this site are:  Darwin, Dawkins, schools, public schools, education, gun control, teachers, John Dewey, Littleton, racist, racism , school choice, African American, Sidney Hook, evolution, and Mike Carrier.

Bottom line--good schools require work.  Good schools do not just happen.  We need good schools, if we are to have a good nation.

This site features a frank presentation of issues facing parents, taxpayers and schools in reforming schools in the twenty-first century.  Good Schools promotes good schools, and explains what is necessary to achieve good schools.  We are convinced that good schools can be obtained only with sound curriculum, which does not include the teaching of Darwin's theory of origin, or Darwin's theory of evolution.  We believe that local school boards need to be empowered, and the influence of teachers' unions ought to be limited to  labor-related issues.  Teachers' unions should have no say in curriculum. 

We are convinced that the teachings of Darwin, particularly Darwin's teachings on evolution, and Darwin's theories on origins, ought not be taught as fact.  Darwin and Darwin's theories are not generally accepted by contemporary physicists and cosmologists, and, therefore, Darwin and Darwin's theories ought not be accepted whole-cloth by our schools of education, and ought not be presented as fact in public schools. 

Because Richard Dawkins has set himself up as the number one defender of Darwin and Darwin's theory of evolution, we will go to some length explaining Dawkins' Darwin defenses, and we will do our best to explode Dawkins' Darwin defenses.

We seek to show from Darwin's own hand that Darwin, and Darwin's theory of evolution, are racist at the core.  Darwin was a racist,  Darwin's theory of evolution is racist, and Darwin's theory of origins is racist.

We further seek to show that Darwin's theory of evolution is not scientific.  We show that racism, more than science, was behind Darwin and Darwin's theory of evolution, and Darwin's theory of origins.

Some of the terms commonly used on this site are:  Darwin, Dawkins, schools, public schools, education, gun control, teachers, John Dewey, Littleton, racist, racism , school choice, African American, Sidney Hook, evolution, and Mike Carrier.

Bottom line--good schools require work.  Good schools do not just happen.  We need good schools, if we are to have a good nation.

This site features a frank presentation of issues facing parents, taxpayers and schools in reforming schools in the twenty-first century.  Good Schools promotes good schools, and explains what is necessary to achieve good schools.  We are convinced that good schools can be obtained only with sound curriculum, which does not include the teaching of Darwin's theory of origin, or Darwin's theory of evolution.  We believe that local school boards need to be empowered, and the influence of teachers' unions ought to be limited to  labor-related issues.  Teachers' unions should have no say in curriculum. 

We are convinced that the teachings of Darwin, particularly Darwin's teachings on evolution, and Darwin's theories on origins, ought not be taught as fact.  Darwin and Darwin's theories are not generally accepted by contemporary physicists and cosmologists, and, therefore, Darwin and Darwin's theories ought not be accepted whole-cloth by our schools of education, and ought not be presented as fact in public schools. 

Because Richard Dawkins has set himself up as the number one defender of Darwin and Darwin's theory of evolution, we will go to some length explaining Dawkins' Darwin defenses, and we will do our best to explode Dawkins' Darwin defenses.

We seek to show from Darwin's own hand that Darwin, and Darwin's theory of evolution, are racist at the core.  Darwin was a racist,  Darwin's theory of evolution is racist, and Darwin's theory of origins is racist.

We further seek to show that Darwin's theory of evolution is not scientific.  We show that racism, more than science, was behind Darwin and Darwin's theory of evolution, and Darwin's theory of origins.

Some of the terms commonly used on this site are:  Darwin, Dawkins, schools, public schools, education, gun control, teachers, John Dewey, Littleton, racist, racism , school choice, African American, Sidney Hook, evolution, and Mike Carrier.

Bottom line--good schools require work.  Good schools do not just happen.  We need good schools, if we are to have a good nation.

This site features a frank presentation of issues facing parents, taxpayers and schools in reforming schools in the twenty-first century.  Good Schools promotes good schools, and explains what is necessary to achieve good schools.  We are convinced that good schools can be obtained only with sound curriculum, which does not include the teaching of Darwin's theory of origin, or Darwin's theory of evolution.  We believe that local school boards need to be empowered, and the influence of teachers' unions ought to be limited to  labor-related issues.  Teachers' unions should have no say in curriculum. 

We are convinced that the teachings of Darwin, particularly Darwin's teachings on evolution, and Darwin's theories on origins, ought not be taught as fact.  Darwin and Darwin's theories are not generally accepted by contemporary physicists and cosmologists, and, therefore, Darwin and Darwin's theories ought not be accepted whole-cloth by our schools of education, and ought not be presented as fact in public schools. 

Because Richard Dawkins has set himself up as the number one defender of Darwin and Darwin's theory of evolution, we will go to some length explaining Dawkins' Darwin defenses, and we will do our best to explode Dawkins' Darwin defenses.

We seek to show from Darwin's own hand that Darwin, and Darwin's theory of evolution, are racist at the core.  Darwin was a racist,  Darwin's theory of evolution is racist, and Darwin's theory of origins is racist.

We further seek to show that Darwin's theory of evolution is not scientific.  We show that racism, more than science, was behind Darwin and Darwin's theory of evolution, and Darwin's theory of origins.

Some of the terms commonly used on this site are:  Darwin, Dawkins, schools, public schools, education, gun control, teachers, John Dewey, Littleton, racist, racism , school choice, African American, Sidney Hook, evolution, and Mike Carrier.

Bottom line--good schools require work.  Good schools do not just happen.  We need good schools, if we are to have a good nation.